Invisible Health Technologies on Good Morning Arizona

Thermal Cameras and Mass Fever Screening are the subject of this inverview with Invisible Health Technologies’s CEO Andrew Southern.


You’ve heard, you know, how our lives are going to change due to the Corona virus. We’ll all be wearing masks. Folks will be getting their temperature taken at restaurants and as we get on or off a plane, but they are not going to be holding a wand up to each and every one of us, as we pass through. Look at this right here. Thermal scanners.

Andrew Southern from Invisible Health Technology is joining us via Skype this morning. Can these machines really pick out a specific person in a crowd who has a fever?

“Yes. Hi, good morning. They can actually, they’re made to sense large groups of people as they walk by and they can find just that one person who might have an elevated temperature.”

Interviewer: So what’s the privacy concerns involved here?

“Well, you know, I don’t think that there’s any more privacy concerns than a typical surveillance camera. In fact, surveillance cameras are recording all the time. Whereas these systems are set to not record at all. So it’s all happening in real time. Someone’s monitoring it. And if they see somebody above temperature, they can pick, pull them aside and speak with them.”

Interviewer: And we’re speaking to you because you create these thermal scanners. Tell me about how the business has changed with this new need.

“Well, actually, so I actually provide these thermal scanners for businesses and the technology is developed overseas in Singapore. It’s actually been running for a long time for about 15 years, and I bring those systems to businesses who are interested in protecting their employees and their customers.”

Interviewer: Is it something that’s very expensive for a business to put in?

“Well, it can be,but I guess that it’s a worthwhile consideration, you know, given the situation that we’re in. And I think everybody understands now that our health in public spaces affects everybody else’s health and public space. And we need to be wary of that.”

Interviewer: And talk to me about what an elevated temperature is. I’m always curious what what’s, what’s the cutoff, because I know I run hot,

“So actually inside the system, you can set where you want to have that alert occur. So, you know, different organizations will set it slightly differently. They don’t want to have a bunch of false alerts. So you set it appropriately. And then everybody who walks by will generally be fine except for one or two people.”

Interviewer: So I’m thinking airports may be stadiums. Should we get back into stadiums at some point? What kind of businesses will we see these at?

“Sure. Airports, factories, malls, schools, nursing homes. I mean places where everybody goes, we need to be able to bring some more confidence back to the public.”

Interviewer: So we’re looking at, we’ve been looking at some of the video. What do you see on someone who has a high temperature versus someone who does not on that thermal screen?

“Right. So generally it’s, it’s shown as a split screen and the thermal is on one side and there’s just the regular video feed on the other side. And when somebody walks through that, doesn’t a fever, they’ll be shown in green or in blue, but somebody who’s above a certain limit will be shown in red and then a little bounding boxes around their face. And then in the HD video, you can see them with that same box around their face. So if there’s 30 people going by, you can identify who that person is and go speak with them directly.”

Interviewer: How expensive are they?

“They’re about 30 grand.”

Interviewer: Wow.

“Yeah, these are called Mass Fever Screening Systems. So they’re made specifically for sensing large groups of people without anybody having to stop. There are other systems which are much slower and you have to queue up and look directly into the camera, but those are really going to work in these high traffic environments.”

Interviewer: And then do they have to warn us that they’re going to be taking our thermal temperature? Is that some signage that we’re going to be seeing out there?

“Yes. Yes. Yeah. They’ll, there’ll be signage. That’ll say, you know, active temperature screening and progress or something like that. But in terms of sort of day to day movement, you won’t actually have to stop. You can just continue walking into the mall or whatever.”

Interviewer: Wow. Very interesting. The way of the future I’ve already had my, my temperature scanned. When I walked into a restaurant, it was a little alarming, but whatever, whatever they need. Thank you. Thank you. And thank you very much.